Chat

Chatea gratis con amigos de todo el Mundo

Página 9 de 18 PrimeroPrimero ... 7891011 ... ÚltimoÚltimo
Mostrando resultados del 81 al 90 de 171

Tema: ¿Tiene fundamento bíblico la WT?

  1. #81
    Fecha de Ingreso
    26-enero-2013
    Mensajes
    25.658

    Predeterminado

    The comparison is uneven
    a christian elder
    does not even resemble
    a catholic Priest
    LO QUE YO ENSEÑO NO ES MIO
    PERTENECE AL QUE ME ENVIO
    ” (Juan 7:16.)



  2. #82
    Fecha de Ingreso
    16-agosto-2019
    Ubicación
    Uruguay
    Mensajes
    3.868

    Predeterminado

    Si conocieras el meme entenderías.

  3. #83
    Fecha de Ingreso
    16-agosto-2019
    Ubicación
    Uruguay
    Mensajes
    3.868

    Predeterminado

    Cita Iniciado por KIMO Ver Mensaje
    The comparison is uneven
    a christian elder
    does not even resemble
    a catholic Priest
    Y ese osito sabe bien los números, grandes números que lo vuelven un potencial miembro donde desde ahí podrá cumplir con sus fines como el meme que es.
    Pedophiles are 99% men.

    With those scary numbers in mind and the wide range of reasons why individuals (especially men) can be or become pedophiles, it is no surprise that religions have their fair share of pedophiles. Recent news has revealed how prevalent the problem is in the Catholic Church. A recent movie that was released earlier this year was relating the true story of several victims of a hidden Catholic Priest who abused dozens of boy scouts in France between the mid-1980s and early 1990s. This helped the public at large to understand better how religion can contribute to the pedophilia epidemic and put children at risk.
    However, there is another religious group that is now making more pedophilia case scandals than the Catholic Church, and this religious group is Jehovah’s Witnesses also called the Watchtower, their corporate name.
    By now we’ve heard of cases of pedophilia among Jehovah’s Witnesses in the United States, Canada, Australia, and several countries of Europe where some ex victims have found the courage to speak out against the Watchtower leaders and against their local congregation elders for not only not having protected them against their abusers by calling the authorities, but also not believing the victims and in some cases excommunicating (disfellowshipping) them, which in the world of Jehovah’s Witnesses means losing family, friends, and whole social network in most cases.
    In numerous cases, the victim has been disfellowshipped years prior and is completely shunned by their family and friends, while the abuser is now in good standing in the religion. The pedophile in question is going to a local kingdom hall (church for Jehovah’s Witnesses) where members don’t suspect that there is a pedophile in their midst. On top of it all, that pedophile is likely to ring your bell or knock on your door on Sunday morning. I am not just saying this to write sensational stuff. This has been proven to be the case on camera more than once.
    Because sexual abuse on children is so widespread and the proofs being more and more overwhelming, on August 14 of this year, a new law that extends the statute of limitations for victims of sexual abuse has gone into effect in the United States. In the state of New York that “window of justice” will last one year. It is to expect that the number of ex Jehovah’s Witnesses who were victims of pedophiles as children, now speaking out, are going to grow still during this period.
    Why So Many Pedophiles in Jehovah’s Witnesses Religion?
    With all of that said, why is it that a religion that thinks of itself above and beyond all other religions, with much emphasis on sexual sins, which include pretty much all kind of sexual conducts and orientations outside of marriage, is having so many pedophiles in its midst? According to William Bowen, an ex-Jehovah’s Witness elder and the founder of the non-profit organization Silentlambs there are 23,720 alleged pedophiles in the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses. For a religious group of only about 8 million that is a staggering number.
    As a matter of fact, Bowen has called the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses a “pedophile paradise.” I feel that the reason why there are so many pedophiles in this religion is at least partly because of that fact. They have found the perfect place to commit their crimes. A paradise for pedophiles. In 1989 the Watchtower had issued a top-secret instruction to keep known child sex abusers in the congregations a secret.
    Here are some of the reasons why the Jehovah’s Witness religion is, indeed, a paradise for pedophiles.
    They Live in a Parallel World
    Known pedophilia cases don’t go outside of the walls of the religion. For the most part, when a child is reporting sex abuse he’s reporting it to his parents and/or to the elders (the equivalent of pastors) of the congregation. But neither the parents nor the elders report the case to the police. In cases where the abuser is one of the parents, the child has nobody on their side to defend them.
    The brainwashing of the teaching of this religion is very strong and “worldly authorities” are seen as inferior to “God’s authority” and therefore, they handle their pedophilia cases within their own judicial system without ever involving the legal authority of the country in which they live.
    In many cases, the pedophile only receives a small rebuke because they deny the facts. According to victims’ testimonies more often than not the abuser is believed by the elders much more often than the victim is. Worst case scenario, even if the abuser confesses he’s disfellowshipped, but still not reported to the police. This means that the congregation might be safe “for a while” but the neighborhood is not.
    Leaders of the Congregation are to be Respected and Obeyed
    Sadly, many of the pedophiles in the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses are elders and ministerial servants. Children are taught from infancy that those men are appointed by God and should be respected, obeyed, and even feared. Not only those men are respected, but they are also trusted by most members of the congregation and thus, they have easy access to their children. Since they are also “teachers” they can easily pretend to want to teach a child they intend to abuse. When elders sexually abuse children they know exactly what to say to keep them quiet and fearful enough so that they won’t tell anyone.
    This tactic is very efficient. Most abused children in this religion never tell until they are adults. If they ever do.
    Jehovah will Fix Everything
    Every ex or current Jehovah’s Witness have found themselves in this situation. You go to an elder, or a “mature Christian” as they call the most experienced ones, with your complaint about someone, but you are quickly dismissed and told that “Jehovah knows it and he will fix it in his own time.”
    How many poor children or teenagers, or even adults, have heard this recurring sentence when they went to the elders to tell them about the abuse they were enduring? Whether it may be sexual abuse or another kind of abuse.
    Any non-indoctrinated person would be able to make the difference between a minor issue or even a “sin” and the fact that molesting a child is not just an issue or even a sin, but a crime of utmost importance. A crime against humanity. But it seems that Jehovah’s Witnesses who have been living in the Watchtower bubble for years have lost that basic discernment skill. No matter how grave the problem, even a crime such as sexual abuse on a child, can be dismissed as something that “Jehovah will fix.”
    Don’t Bring Reproach on Jehovah
    The group of leaders of the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses called the governing body, likes to make their members believe that they count and that they are valuable. Steven Lett, one of the governing body members said: “if anybody would take action against someone who would threaten our young ones, and takes actions to protect our young ones, it’s Jehovah’s Organization!” This is a lie. The main concern of this organization is not the welfare of children, it’s that no reproach be brought upon Jehovah. In other words, no reproach be brought upon their organization.
    It is better in their mind to hide a pedophile than report him to the authorities and tell the members of a congregation that there is a pedophile in their midst so they could take proper measures to protect their children. Their philosophy is, let’s keep quiet, so we can save our reputation.
    The only problem is that the Watchtower didn’t count on the damages that the internet was going to do to its organization. Today with dozens of ex-members YouTube channels revealing every little secret of their ex religion, including the big problem of pedophilia among Jehovah’s Witnesses, it is no longer a secret for anyone.
    And if that wasn’t enough the Candace Conti (ex-Jehovah’s Witness victim) case in the United States and the Australian Royal Commission in 2015 which put the Watchtower on trial for 1006 pedophilia cases that took place between 1950 and 2015 in Australia, which were not reported to the police, opened the eyes of many members and non-members about the problem.
    Today, as news spread on TV and all over the internet thanks to ex-Jehovah’s Witness activists, pedophilia among Jehovah’s Witnesses is no longer a secret, and the watchtower has been and still is forced to reveal what they have been hiding for decades.

  4. #84
    Fecha de Ingreso
    26-enero-2013
    Mensajes
    25.658

    Predeterminado

    Cita Iniciado por Abysso Ver Mensaje
    Si conocieras el meme entenderías.
    Jjajajaja

    Antes de suponer o asumir
    prueba este loco método que es preguntar
    LO QUE YO ENSEÑO NO ES MIO
    PERTENECE AL QUE ME ENVIO
    ” (Juan 7:16.)



  5. #85
    Fecha de Ingreso
    16-agosto-2019
    Ubicación
    Uruguay
    Mensajes
    3.868

    Predeterminado

    Cita Iniciado por KIMO Ver Mensaje
    Jjajajaja

    Antes de suponer o asumir
    prueba este loco método que es preguntar
    Ya lo hice, por eso se me dieron respuestas. Pero has asumido que yo he asumido, y has supuesto que yo supuse.

  6. #86
    Fecha de Ingreso
    26-enero-2013
    Mensajes
    25.658

    Exclamation

    Cita Iniciado por Abysso Ver Mensaje
    Ya lo hice, por eso se me dieron respuestas. Pero has asumido que yo he asumido, y has supuesto que yo supuse.
    Usa tu agnosticismo......
    👌
    LO QUE YO ENSEÑO NO ES MIO
    PERTENECE AL QUE ME ENVIO
    ” (Juan 7:16.)



  7. #87
    Fecha de Ingreso
    16-agosto-2019
    Ubicación
    Uruguay
    Mensajes
    3.868

    Predeterminado

    Cita Iniciado por Abysso Ver Mensaje
    ....
    Leaders of the Congregation are to be Respected and Obeyed:

    Sadly, many of the pedophiles in the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses are elders and ministerial servants. Children are taught from infancy that those men are appointed by God and should be respected, obeyed, and even feared. Not only those men are respected, but they are also trusted by most members of the congregation and thus, they have easy access to their children. Since they are also “teachers” they can easily pretend to want to teach a child they intend to abuse. When elders sexually abuse children they know exactly what to say to keep them quiet and fearful enough so that they won’t tell anyone.
    This tactic is very efficient. Most abused children in this religion never tell until they are adults. If they ever do.
    Jehovah will Fix Everything
    Every ex or current Jehovah’s Witness have found themselves in this situation. You go to an elder, or a “mature Christian” as they call the most experienced ones, with your complaint about someone, but you are quickly dismissed and told that “Jehovah knows it and he will fix it in his own time.”
    How many poor children or teenagers, or even adults, have heard this recurring sentence when they went to the elders to tell them about the abuse they were enduring? Whether it may be sexual abuse or another kind of abuse.
    Any non-indoctrinated person would be able to make the difference between a minor issue or even a “sin” and the fact that molesting a child is not just an issue or even a sin, but a crime of utmost importance. A crime against humanity. But it seems that Jehovah’s Witnesses who have been living in the Watchtower bubble for years have lost that basic discernment skill. No matter how grave the problem, even a crime such as sexual abuse on a child, can be dismissed as something that “Jehovah will fix.”
    Don’t Bring Reproach on Jehovah
    The group of leaders of the religion of Jehovah’s Witnesses called the governing body, likes to make their members believe that they count and that they are valuable. Steven Lett, one of the governing body members said: “if anybody would take action against someone who would threaten our young ones, and takes actions to protect our young ones, it’s Jehovah’s Organization!” This is a lie. The main concern of this organization is not the welfare of children, it’s that no reproach be brought upon Jehovah. In other words, no reproach be brought upon their organization.
    It is better in their mind to hide a pedophile than report him to the authorities and tell the members of a congregation that there is a pedophile in their midst so they could take proper measures to protect their children. Their philosophy is, let’s keep quiet, so we can save our reputation.
    The only problem is that the Watchtower didn’t count on the damages that the internet was going to do to its organization. Today with dozens of ex-members YouTube channels revealing every little secret of their ex religion, including the big problem of pedophilia among Jehovah’s Witnesses, it is no longer a secret for anyone.
    And if that wasn’t enough the Candace Conti (ex-Jehovah’s Witness victim) case in the United States and the Australian Royal Commission in 2015 which put the Watchtower on trial for 1006 pedophilia cases that took place between 1950 and 2015 in Australia, which were not reported to the police, opened the eyes of many members and non-members about the problem.
    Today, as news spread on TV and all over the internet thanks to ex-Jehovah’s Witness activists, pedophilia among Jehovah’s Witnesses is no longer a secret, and the watchtower has been and still is forced to reveal what they have been hiding for decades.
    Pero tú no podrás nunca realizar "este loco método" de la pregunta, porque sólo tienes restringida la investigación al mundillo cerrado de tus superiores. Y muchos elders se salieron justamente porque supieron comparar datos ,o, porque hicieron preguntas que dejaron en evidencia a otros encubridores.

    Como no conoces mi agnosticismo ni sabes que justamente ese uso.

  8. #88
    Fecha de Ingreso
    26-enero-2013
    Mensajes
    25.658

    Exclamation

    Cita Iniciado por Abysso Ver Mensaje
    Pero tú no podrás nunca realizar "este loco método" de la pregunta, porque sólo tienes restringida la investigación al mundillo cerrado de tus superiores. Y muchos elders se salieron justamente porque supieron comparar datos ,o, porque hicieron preguntas que dejaron en evidencia a otros encubridores.

    Como no conoces mi agnosticismo ni sabes que justamente ese uso.
    Los únicos métodos empleados
    para animar a los hermanos a ser obedientes
    son discursos y publicaciones.

    Los testigos de Jehová nos destacamos
    por la importancia que damos a la educación

    Tu no sabes por que salio nadie de ningun lado
    lo que sucede es que estas leyendo propaganda falsa.

    Nosotros hacemos preguntas todo el tiempo
    a los testigos de Jehova se les conoce y se les critica por
    expulsar a los pecadores que persisten en el mal despues
    de mucha ayuda de parte de los ancianos.

    Hablar de encubrir algo en la organizacion de los TESTIGOS DE JEHOVA
    va en contra de todo lo que se conoce de ellos.

    Cuando un miembro de nuestra familia
    comete un pecado
    lo aconsejamos a ir a los ancianos para ayuda espiritual
    un consejito biblico
    la oracion todo eso es ayuda
    responder a sus dudas sus preguntas
    todo eso forma parte del pastoreo de los ancianos.

    Si esa persona sigue con lo mismo
    al final se expulsa
    ningun miembro de su familia
    esconde su pecado.

    Ahora..¿Quienes son estos ancianos/pastores
    y hay uno por congregación como la cristiandad?

    Esto es muy importante
    cuando se habla de esconder el mal
    de una persona peligrosa..

    Los ancianos son, mi inquilino, mi primo, mi padre
    hermano carnal..son personas de la comunidad son familiares carnales.

    Estos hombres jóvenes muchos
    tienen familia, hijos nietos
    en asociación con los miembros de la congregación

    Ahora, ten en mente que los testigos
    no van a la reunión escuchan se paran y se van.

    Nosotros nos reunimos durante la semana
    en casas privadas para predicar
    vamos con nuestra familia.

    Tenemos fiestas a las que participan
    miembros de la congregación.

    Nos vemos constantemente
    nos tratamos
    nos visitamos
    salimos juntos a dar estudios biblicos
    a personas interesadas en la verdad de la biblia

    Ningun padre de familia
    va a ocultar a alguien que les pueda hacer daño
    a su propia familia y a los sobrinos y nietos
    que tiene asociándose con esa persona.

    Los testigos de Jehova son conocidos
    por expulsar a sus miembros.

    Sin excepción.

    Asi que a nadie se les prohíbe leer
    o ver ningún tipo de datos
    ni nada de eso.

    Hay que tener cuidado con lo que se ve
    y se lee, pues te puede afectar
    eso es indiscutible.

    Pero es todo.

    No hay UN SOLO ANCIANO
    en la mayoría de las congregaciones
    hay de 6 a 8
    ancianos...

    Así que si uno se vuelve loco
    tenemos a los demás.

    ASi que tendrían que ponerse de acuerdo todos
    para violar las directrices de sus consciencias


    LO QUE YO ENSEÑO NO ES MIO
    PERTENECE AL QUE ME ENVIO
    ” (Juan 7:16.)



  9. #89
    Fecha de Ingreso
    16-agosto-2019
    Ubicación
    Uruguay
    Mensajes
    3.868

    Predeterminado

    Cita Iniciado por agnostico100 Ver Mensaje


    Pues este testigo no pudo o no quiso mostrarlo.
    Tampoco a la hora de mirar los datos para ponerse a comparar, sin miedo mirar los datos a la cara y hacer la investigación personal (cosa que no harán porque Jehová es la organización e ir contra la humana organización es ir contra Dios, vaya contradicción: y así expulsaron a los que señalaron la falsa profecía: lo que hicieron en diversas fechas. Ser expulsados porque siendo fieles a la biblia fueron infieles a la organización la cual no es Dios) sin miedo a los supervisores que tienen y que son superiores en la organización pero debería quedar claro que ningún comité judicial puede hacer a subordinados de Dios enjuiciadores de los otros hermanos.
    Datos duros:

    Este señor expone datos que cualquiera puede ir a corroborar, a la par de la ICAR la WT hace la competencia a ver quién esconde más sus monstruos.
    Pero, usuario agnóstico, te comparto otro video y a quien además quiera verlo, porque están empezando a caer las mentiras de la WT y cada vez más fácil es ir a la evidencia aunque haya quiénes tienen miedo de ser cruelmente separados de sus amigos y familiares, y por eso, por miedo, saben que tienen mucho que perder sólo en ese punto, y por eso cuando la gente llamada apóstata se compadece de ellos : saben muu bien por qué, incluso los que nunca fueron testigos pueden saber por empatía lo que implica ese cruel mecanismo de castigo humano contra los empleados-gratis de la WT tan sometidos a leyes humanas como cualquiera y además también a más leyes humanas adentro de las leyes humanas: las exigencias de una organización humana y sus reglas impuestas bajo amenaza de crueles sansiones.
    Más cerca de la WT no se está más cerca de Dios y más lejos del mundo, pues ya no sólo en el mundo humano están sumergidos sino también infrahumano al estar encarcelados a comparar e investigar.

  10. #90
    Fecha de Ingreso
    16-agosto-2019
    Ubicación
    Uruguay
    Mensajes
    3.868

    Predeterminado

    Cita Iniciado por KIMO Ver Mensaje
    ...

    Así que si uno se vuelve loco
    tenemos a los demás.

    Y loco es también quien decide que la organización le hace daño a muchos niños y esta encubre pedofilia, y que por eso se va.
    Lo sé.

Normas de Publicación

  • No puedes crear nuevos temas
  • No puedes responder mensajes
  • No puedes subir archivos adjuntos
  • No puedes editar tus mensajes
  •